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Car Paint Issues

humblebeing — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:54:16 GMT

hi,

I bought a brand new luxury car in Raleigh NC a couple of years back. When the car was 6 months old, I gave it for detailing at the car dealership. But when I got my car back, the paint had come off a few places. I am still trying to settle the issue with them.

But one thing I am wondering is if the car had been repainted before it was sold to me?
How can I tell if the brand new car had been repainted or how do I find out if there was a defect in the car paint?
Are there any known stores or paint body shops who do this kind of evaluation?

The dealership claims that the damage could not have happened during the detailing and some thing else had fallen on the car before that. I am lost and tired and don't know what to do. Mostly I will accept this deal and go ahead if the paint looks alright. I went to a paint body shop and they quoted only $1200 for the same job. Do you think it is fair to ask the dealer to match that price?

Any advice regarding this matter is appreciated.

Thanks,
Sean.

Where can I buy auto paint online?

lensavage — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:13:38 GMT

What is a good source for auto paint online?

I have what appears to be dried cement like material on my car. What can I use to dissolve this stuff?

thetroyasher — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:56:09 GMT

It resembles cement and barely flakes off when I rub it. I'm afraid to just rub it off and not dissolve it because it appears it may damage my paint. It's in small droplets all over my trunk and roof and I have no idea where it came from or what exactly this stuff is.

Is it worth it to purchase Simonizing from the dealer for a new black car?

Karensue — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:15:15 GMT

I didn't realize that a black car would be so much maintenance and the dealer says that the Simonize will protect the paint and eliminate the need for waxing for 5 years. Is this true? Thanks!

What car wax can I purchase instead of xzilon coating from dealer?

lisa08 — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:50:42 GMT

The dealer wants to apply xzilon coating for $895. Is there a cheaper wax product available at Autozone or WalMart?

I would like to know where to find a product called "RVM's Old Paint". It was made in Tucson, AZ.

lapope — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:13:40 GMT

I would like to purchase a product called RVM's Old Paint. I'm not sure if it is still in the market. The address on the bottle is in Tucson, AZ.
Is it still available for purchase?

Paint protection film aka clear bra, is it worth it?

janbon — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:09:26 GMT

I just bought a 2010 Toyota Camry and I'm undecided if Paint Protection film is worth 300-500 dollars.$300 covers half the hood, $500 covers the whole hood, both cover front bumper/fenders and backs of the side mirrors. I don't drive on gravel roads but I do live in an area with snow every winter, meaning they do put sand, chemical and/or salt on the roads.

black or silver paint color. Pros & cons anyone?

edan — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:45:43 GMT

I am very close to purchasing a 2008 honda accord and can't decide to go with my dream of a black paint or should I go safe and get the silver?

Is there any harm done to paint when a clear bra is removed?

lenshoesss — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:08:21 GMT

The bra will be on about a month. I am taking a cross country trip.

What were the original exterior colors for the 1985 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe? Thank you, Eddieb

eddiebmartinez — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:19:23 GMT

Does anyone know where I can find this information? The Original exterior colors for my 1985 Eldorado Coupe. I have been looking for the last several weeks and am about to give up. Thank you all.... eddieb

My 08 Honda Accord has moisture in the paint (F/R bumpers). I have the polished metal gray. Anyone else with this problem?

08accordluvr — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:27:57 GMT

Moisture in paint causing dark patches. Dealer wants to repaint. Good idea or trade for another?

My 2003 Ford Expedition has paint bubbles on the tailgate around the trim and is now starting to rust. What to do?

tomc8 — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:35:28 GMT

Ford corrosion warranty is 5 years/50,000 miles. Both are surpassed. The gate is alluminum and I think there may be some electrolisis going on at some sort of bonding spot. Maybe at a weld spot. Is anyone experiencing something similar?

Is it worth it to get protective coating on a new black Honda Odyssey?

julierob1 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:23:02 GMT

I am buying a 2008 Black Odyssey Touring. Is it a good idea to have the protective coating put on? Is $350.00 reasonable? Should dealer do it or aftermarket company? Which coating have y'all had experience with? Thanks

Has anyone had any luck getting their paint fixed by Nissan? My Titan truck is chipping and they claim it's rock chips.

laverriere85 — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:20:01 GMT

My Nissan Titan's paint is chipping everywhere. I have been told that it's rock chips but it's chipping in places there wouldn't be any rocks.

Does anyone know what the formula color is for the 1977 Bumble Bee transformer car is.

websgirl — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:38:36 GMT

My husband is restoring my 1974 Camaro for me. He is making a replica of 1977 Bumble Bee from the Transformer movie. I am trying to find out what color Bumble Bee is. I don't think that it is Velocity Yellow. Can anyone please help me find the formula for Bumble Bee's paint color.

Thank you soooo Much!
Webs Girl

Paint care - New car - Nissan Altima - need REAL advice.

sincraft — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:27:29 GMT

I picked up a 06 Frontier and attempted to keep it as nice as possible and failed.

Now we have a new 08 Altima. BLACK. It already has some minor swirls etc from poor car washing prior to selling it.

I want to use the BEST quality items for taking care of this vehicle and my frontier. Please help.

I started using Microfiber towels, washed after every use. I use one for the top half of the car, and another for the bottom half. I do NOT use the same soap and bucket for the bottom half of the car. I then do the wheels last. I still have plenty of marks on the car.

I was interested in doing some serious spring cleaning on this truck. I noticed the mothers 3 step process. Is this worth it?
Btw - I use pure carnuba and a polish pad to apply, microfiber to remove wax. I only waxed about 3 times a year.

So what can I do to bring my trucks finish back to the best quality I can. I'll buy whatever I need to...I need new tools/toys. :) If I need a buffer so be it.

And how should I start with this new Altima? Is there anything I can do NOW before I get tree sap, bug goo etc before it's too late? How about from now on?

Thanks!

S

The clear coat on my Dodge Dakota is peeling off. What is the best thing I can do here and about how much would it cost?

red_dodge — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:06:40 GMT

the clear coat is peeling off of the roof of the cab, and also starting on the hood.

What is the name of the production color of my 1982 Porsche 928s?

missyo — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:03:08 GMT

none stated

I have a new, white Toyota Tundra with light yellow spots. What could be the cause and what could be the solution?

20deere40 — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:25:29 GMT

I noticed the spots the first time I washed the truck. (had only 500 mile on it). There were 3 spots on the passengers door but as time passes more spots keep appearing. I now can count the 3 on one door, one on the other passenger's door, one on the box and one on the tailgate. They are the size of a softball and an off white to a light yellow and become more noticeable as time passes. I first thought that it was repairs made at the factory but there's too many appearing in different places. The company rep. is off for 3 months so for the time being nothing is getting done. What would you think the spots are and what would you expect to be done about it ? I don't want my new truck repainted. I only had it 3 months.

Is Simonize a cancelable product?

lovelylisa920 — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:34:42 GMT

Should I receive a refund on Simonize warranty since I no longer have the car? I was told by my new car dealership I could. It would be prorated? Now the old dealership is saying no. I only had it for 2 yrs and I purchased it for 5.

Anyone else have a defective paint job on 2003 Honda Odyssey? Need help. Honda will not fix it.

rkmoua — Thu, 08 May 2008 13:21:45 GMT

I have a 2003 Honda Odyssey that has a defective paint job on it. I am a second owner, purchased it from a dealership as a certified vehicle. Recently the paint on the hood, roof and top of both sliding doors are peeling. I took it to the body shop and they confirm it is a defective paint job. But when we contacted Honda, they said they will not pay for repainting. What can I do?

We have a white 2006 Mitsubishi Outlander. We recently noticed small orange spots all around the lower part of the car.

malyr — Mon, 26 May 2008 20:41:07 GMT

The dealer claims that all cars will have this spots, he calls it "environmental dust", and you will notice more on white/grey color cars. He tried to clean it with a white liquid and the spots came off. Will this process not remove a layer of the color? I am sure next year will be the same.Is it better to do nothing???

My Toyota Prius came with an extra sealant and noise reducer. The dealer said I had to apply the sealant, is that customary?

hairgal — Sat, 31 May 2008 00:21:29 GMT

The car came with this already added to the list.. it was only like 330.00 but I thought it was strange that I should do the application. I have also read that the extra spray underneath really does help with noise..but how do I know if it was applied? I'm going to call the dealership tomorrow but would like to know if anyone has had this done or knows anything about it.thanks

Rust problems with a 2003 Chevy Venture below both power sliding doors! Anyone else? Is it defective?

mbs1 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:21:13 GMT

The most rust I've experienced in a vehicle. I had a 1999 Venure with no problems. I wonder if there is a defect. I've seen the same on other Venture vans. Does anyone have help with this one???

I have a black 2006 Nissan Xterra. I'm looking for the paint to touch up the step rails. Can someone help me out?

toricon — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:40:54 GMT

The paint is chipping off of the step rails. It's a dark metallic color. Is it a spray paint? I'm having a difficult time finding it.

Is anyone having issues with their paint on their 2008 Chevy Impala SS? Seems to chip easy?

rdower — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:07:45 GMT

Had to take 2 trips during the winter months of approximately 600 miles in my 2008 black impala ss, bottom of door panels are now chipped and grey speckled. Very noticable and looks like crap! Have at least 10 rock chips on car hood, back quarter panel.
Went 35 mph on the roads that contained cinders.
Is the GM Paint / clear coat having issues? I love my Dealer, so I wanted to find out more before I approached him to stand behind it.

2007 Jaguar XKR in accident - repaired, now paint peeling and blistering on fenders and hood. Reason?

joe1938 — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:40:00 GMT

My Jaguar was repaired by an authorized Jaguar shop. When I pointed out the "orange peel", I was told to bring the car back in 8 weeks and they would buff it out. The next morning the paint on the new bumper was chipped away and the aluminum hood is starting to show signs of blistering.

What car colors were offered for 2002 Jeep Liberty?

spag4316 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:56:02 GMT

Just want to know the exact name given to my car color. My wife says its a shade of blue.....i say its more of a dark grey....

Which corrosion control module is the best?

ironline — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:39:09 GMT

Which one works the best?

'08 Honda Accord LX-P Sedan Paint Finish Issue...

mcast1286 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:24:50 GMT

HEY!!! Someone mugged my beautiful new '08 Honda Accord LX-P Sedan, by stretching a line of gum out across my hood.

Does anyone have the Honda paint-specific answer to cleaning up this problem? I don't want to ruin my beautiful metal metallic finish.

Thanks.

When do I start waxing 08 Acura TL?

kozy — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:34:59 GMT

Hello All! Just purchased a new Carbon Bronze '08 TL. I've never owned a brand new vehicle and I want to take extra special care of this one. I have just under 1000 miles on it and I was wondering when I should start waxing the car. The Louisiana summer heat is here so should I start now or is the factory wax sufficient for awhile? Thanks for your time!

When I search "Saturn Vue Paint," it does not come up on this site, but I did find searching other ways. Why?

susansnider — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:20:05 GMT

Saturn Vue Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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#49 of 54 Saturn Vue Paint Problems by danylvenus Dec 27, 2007 (9:49 am) Save | Reply
I am very frustrated with my parent's 2005 Saturn Vue. My parents are seniors and make frequent trips out of state. The Vue's gas mileage was attractive and perfect for their lifestyle. Everything was fine for the first couple of months with the new vue.
Besides the many technical problems they have had with this vehicle, the most frustrating thing is the paint defects on the driver's side door.
Their Vue is bright yellow. (my parents are pretty hip) A black bubble appeared on the driver's side door and by the time my dad took it to the dealership the next week, a half-dollar sized peel

Is there any recourse for the roof paint fading on my 2003 Dodge Dakota pickup?

edthe3rd — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:14:57 GMT

Live in Hawaii. Noticed a rather rapid loss of paint on roof and only on roof. Neighbor (car salesman) said I should have recourse if damage is within 5 years of purchase. We purchased New in Nov 03. Is this valid info?

Stain on RAV4 Blizzard Pearl paint on right rear panel

macrae — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:57:35 GMT

On my 2008 RAV4 with 5000 miles on it I have recently - in last 2 months - been getting a yellowish brown oily stain on the right rear fender panel - same side as the tailpipe. I have to wash it off with soap and water but in a day or two there it is again. The longer I leave it the worse it gets. The dealer seems perplexed and offered this explanation: Water on road splashes on to tailpipe, turns to steam and deposits the result on the panel. No way! I have checked with other RAV4 owners in the area, examined others parked in various lots and see no such stain. Toyota head office couldn't/ wouldn't offer any diagnosis via email and suggested I contact my dealer. Seems to be a catch 22. Anyone else out there with an answer I can present to my dealer?

I have a 03 Plymouth Voyager. Paint is peeling from the roof and hood. Any suggestions? It's not covered by Chrysler.

jolie1 — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:46:38 GMT

The paint on my 2003 Voyager is all flaky on the roof and starting to peel in the hood. Chrysler want to pay 50% of the pill to get it painted. Its $1700.
I feel this is not my responsibility. I only have 42208 miles on my van.
Has anyone have this problem? i am reading on line of some other Chrysler owners that had the same problem, but it was back in the late 90's.
Any comments will be appreciated.
Thank You.

I have some overspray damage on the windows of my vehicle. Would it be safe to use a razor from a boxcutter?

srki — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:19:41 GMT

I had a major paint overspray problem on my vehicle and I took it to a detailer and there were literally 3 guys working on my vehicle for 8 hours trying to get this stuff off my car. They did a great job on the body but I still notice some on the windshield and some of the side mirrors. So I was just wondering if i could use a razor blade or something like that with some hot water and remove it myself. Would I do any damage to the glass? Please Help.

My 2006 Accord Coupe is red. Where is the color code located? Is it Redondo Red Pearl or San Marino Red?

daver321 — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:35:48 GMT

I just bought a used 2006 Accord Coupe i4 and need to buy touch-up
paint. What is the best way to find the correct color? It isn't on any of the paperwork the dealer gave me.
Thank You

2006 Hyundai Sonata. Peeling paint?

onebigswede — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:45:38 GMT

I'm looking at buying a 2006 Hyundai Sonata GLS 3.3L V6, but when i test drove it i noticed that the paint or clear coat was peeling on the bumper, front and rear. Also, it seemed like there were a lot of paint chips taken out of the car, more than my 7 year old chevy.

What can you tell me about this make/model - is it known to have problems with peeling paint and paint chipping?

here's a picture of the paint peeling:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3056/3007...

What were the available exterior and interior colors for the 1980 Chevy Corvette?

ntell — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:46:31 GMT

exterior and interior color combinations available from the factory for 1980 Corvette?

What's the real truth about all of these paint issues (peel/chip) on newer Toyota vehicles? Pertain to Sequoia's?

robert — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:23:30 GMT

People who've purchased new Toyota vehicles in the last couple of years tell me that they've had serious problems with the paint chipping and even peeling off. I guess Toyota has recently changed over to a water-based paint, which most believe is the reason. Toyota of course is playing dumb, but when I go online I find a lot of blogs on it. Any input from you experts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

How do I find the paint code for my 1999 Nissan Sentra GXE? It is not on the driver door sticker.

bernosc — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:29:25 GMT

I do have a sticker on my driver door but it is not as detailed as one I found on-line.
My car is grey (not a silver)

What is the "best" color for a 2009 Audi A4?

argelius — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 07:08:37 GMT

Okay, I know this is totally a personal preference, but thought I'd throw it out there for people to express their opinion about the color choices for the A4.

I'm toying between:
Meteor Grey (not sure about the deep blue color - the more I see it, the more I don't like it; looks really dull unless in bright sunshine. But I think it might grow on me...)

Quartz Grey (probably my favorite, although it sounds like it's not available anytime soon with the options I want)

Ice Silver: they liked it so much that's the only color in the brochure

Black (either regular or pearl effect): sort of generic, but classic. Everyone complains about how hard it is to keep clean, but there are sure a lot of black cars out there.

As I continue to obsess, I went out a visited another Audi dealer (on Sunday and salesperson-free!) to see what they have on their lot. Three of my top choices were (nearly) side-by-side. I snapped several iPhone pictures so I could continue to obsess.

http://albums.phanfare.com/6886050/31798...

On a 99 Pontiac Firebird, how rare is the color medium blue met code 20?

smurfette_blue — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:13:35 GMT

my car was hit im trying to save it from being total..hopeing that the color is rare code 20 med blue met...can anyone help anwswer this? please

Is anyone having front end paint failure issues with their Infiniti QX56?

sgw1 — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:30:23 GMT

The dealer is claiming that i have "road rash" and is rejecting warranty. i however have been watching this deterioration over a period of months. I have also started to take note of other QX56's when I see them parked. Conservatively, 75% of those I've seen have the same issue to varying degrees. There is no pock marks or marring to the low end chrome grill, lights or other areas of the vehicle. There is zero evidence of damage that doesn't penetrate thru the paint. The attending Dealer was dismissive and cold. I would not recommend purchasing from Infiniti of Bedford in Bedford Ohio. I should note that the selling dealer in Orlando assured me that they would remedy the issue should I desire to drive it back to Florida. Further evidence that the service end of Infiniti of Bedford leaves much to be desired.

2003 BMW X5 jet black, 65k. The paint on the inside edges of the doors, hood and rear hatch is fading to the primer.

peddler4 — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:55:22 GMT

i bought this vehicle new, never had any paint work done.

Simple Question, difficult answer: Quartz, Meteor or Deep Sea Blue. Which is the better color?

BillMTB — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:45:45 GMT

Do any colors have any historical problems? Fading, dulling, chipping etc?

1993 Chevy Corvette Yellow and 2003 Corvette Yellow. How much difference is there in the two colors?

prespoiled11 — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:49:18 GMT

Is the 2003 corvette yellow brighter than the 1993 corvette yellow or about the same looking??

Can you tell me what color your Infiniti is? I am having problems with my black M35.

gojoanne — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:33:51 GMT

Seems there is some kind of chemical (?) reaction where the paint is separating from the clearcoat.... on my hood, NOT rock damage... Infiniti trying to blow me off saying its an environmental problem.....

joanne

How can I fix slight oxidation on my car? It has black paint.

tsullivqn — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:38:41 GMT

The paint is showing white on hood and roof

Purchased a car Monday 3/30 and now want to cancel the protection package (undercoating, rust, Scotchgard?

rpuetz — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:45:18 GMT

Purchased a car Monday 3/30 and now want to cancel the protection pkg (undercoating, rust, Scotchgard). This was included in the total financed, but I am going to pay cash and hoping to cancel the protection package that cost $980. Since it was part of the contract am I obligated?