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  • zaken1 04/06/10 12:29 am PST

    This problem is most likely the fuel pump relay or the fuel cutoff relay. Did you replace both of those parts? There is also a little known part called the ASD (automatic shut down) relay, which is located in a box in the fender well alongside the motor. This part is only available from Dodge dealers. There are also two engine sensors which can cause this; one is called the crankshaft position sensor, and the other is called the camshaft position sensor. And one more possibility is a slipped timing chain or timing belt.

    Not to overlook the obvious; are you ABSOLUTELY SURE the car has not run out of fuel??? When this happens just at the moment the car pulls into the driveway; it has tricked a whole lot of people.

    There may be a diagnostic trouble code stored in the vehicle computer's memory. If so; it could be helpful in identifying the problem. But you would need to know the procedure for retrieving trouble codes; which are read from the check engine light. Here's what to do:

    Turn the ignition key ON THREE TIMES in succession:
    ON : OFF : ON : OFF : ON
    (within FIVE seconds)
    Count the number of times the check engine lamp on the dash flashes. The number of flashes represents the error code. There will be a short pause between the flashes representing the different digits of the code. Longer pauses separate individual trouble codes.
    Code 55 (end of code sequences) will be the last code to be displayed. 
    These codes will also be displayed on the odometer, where they are much easier to read!

    TJ Error Code Table
    11 No crank reference signal detected during engine cranking. Intermittent loss of either camshaft or crankshaft position sensor. CKP sensor target windows have too much variation.
    12 Direct battery input to PCM was disconnected within the last 50 Key-on cycles.
    13 No difference recognized between the engine MAP reading and the barometric (atmosphere) pressure reading from start-up.
    14 MAP sensor input above or below acceptable voltage. 5 volt output to MAP sensor open.
    15 No vehicle speed sensor signal detected during road load conditions.
    17 Engine did not reach operating temperature within acceptable limits. Engine does not reach 20º F. within 5 minutes with a vehicle speed signal.
    21 Upstream oxygen sensor response slower than minimum required switching frequency. Upstream oxygen sensor heating element circuit malfunction. Downstream oxygen sensor heating element circuit malfunction. Downstream oxygen sensor input voltage maintained above the normal operating range. Oxygen sensor voltage too low, tested after cold start. (Upstream or Downstream) Left oxygen sensor input voltage maintained above the normal operating temperature.
    22 Engine coolant temperature sensor above or below acceptable voltage.
    23 Intake air temperature sensor input above or below acceptable voltage.
    24 Throttle position sensor input above or below acceptable voltage. TPS signal does not correlate to MAP sensor.
    25 A shorted or open condition detected in one or more of the idle air control motor circuits. Actual idle speed does not equal target idle speed.
    27 Injector #3, and/or 4, and/or 5, and/or 6 output driver does not respond properly to the control signal.
    31 An open or shorted condition detected in the A/C clutch relay circuit. Insufficient or excessive vapor flow detected during evaporative emission system operation.
    33 An open or shorted condition detected in the duty cycle purge solenoid circuit.
    34 An open or shorted condition detected in the Speed Control vacuum or vent solenoid circuits. Speed control switch input below the minimum acceptable voltage.
    37 Relationship between engine speed and vehicle speed indicates no torque converter clutch engagement. An open or shorted condition detected in the torque converter part throttle unlock solenoid control circuit. Incorrect input state detected for the Park/Neutral switch. Auto only.
    41 An open or shorted condition in the generator field control circuit.
    42 An open or shorted condition detected in the auto shutdown relay circuit. An open condition detected in the ASD relay output circuit. An open or shorted condition detected in the fuel pump relay control circuit. An open circuit between PCM and fuel gauge sending unit. Circuit shorted to voltage between PCM and fuel gauge sending unit. No movement of fuel level sender detected.
    43 Peak primary circuit current not achieved with maximum dwell time. Misfire detected in one or more cylinders 1 thru 6. (4 and 6 cyls.)
    44 Battery temperature sensor in voltage above or below acceptable range.
    46 Battery voltage sense input above target charging voltage during engine operation.
    47 Battery voltage sense input below target charging during engine operation. Also, no significant change detected in battery voltage during active test of generator output circuit.
    51 A lean air/fuel mixture has been indicated by an abnormally rich correction factor.
    52 A rich air/fuel mixture has been indicated by an abnormally rich correction factor.
    53 PCM Internal fault condition detected.
    54 No camshaft signal detected during engine cranking.
    55 Completion of fault code display on Check Engine lamp.
    63 Unsuccessful attempt to write to an EEPROM location by the PCM.
    64 Catalyst efficiency below required level. (Same as code 72)
    65 Power steering high pressure seen at high speed. (2.5L only)
    72 Catalyst efficiency below required level. (Same as code 64)
    77 Malfunction detected with poser feed to speed control servo solenoids.

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  • pioxen 04/06/10 12:32 am PST

    Sounds like a fuel flow problem to me. Check fuel filter and air flow.. it starts, so fuel air is suspect.

  • clubkumite 04/11/10 1:56 am PST

    The Van is Fixed!!!!!! took it to a friend mechanic that i have know for over 20 years, has helped me fix plenty of vehicles i have had in the past, many times for nothing as long as i do most of the wrenching. He said it was the Fuel Pump, something about too many AMPS, he also changed the fuel filter and reprogrammed or reset the Computer. Van runs great so far. Thanks for all the feedback.

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